07-15-2025, 11:40 PM
Exactly. As far as we know, he does not have any memories of any other past life. Until further notice this is his first life.
You're right that him mentioning the world already being mid-explosion is odd, especially considering the fact he should be an amnesiac. But technically he should also have no idea of what a chip is, and yet he clocked it immediately. So maybe he knows more than he's showing MC.
And his "the world is already ending" sentence can be explained by knowing about his present role in the main flow of events (aka he works with/for Ever but is he truly being controlled?). The new alternative abyssal chaos they just released with 4.0 adds to this if you play his mission. He always has very interesting dialogues. But his comment in Lucid Dream would only add to the idea that he hasn't actually lost his memories, wouldn't it.
What happens with all the LIs is that every reincarnation echoes the fate that has been set for them. They will mirror and repeat actions, dialogues etc. It's how you get Raf always saving MC from drowning, always falling in love with her, always ending up against the Tome, always choosing between sacrificing himself or watching MC sacrifice herself or losing Lemuria. But the reincarnations instead of being a simple replay actually let us witness a new angle to see things we wouldn't notice otherwise (big example of this is Catch-22 which, further from being just a hot valentine's banner, is a gold mine of info on things we still don't know about the present timeline and the character's personalities -- a bit like Silent Hill where you need to switch to its fucked up version of reality to access doors that wouldn't be open in the real world, even though they're perfect mirrors).
So yeah, once you've watched one myth for one LI you can already guess what's going to happen in the others. Or better yet, sometimes the ending isn't shown to you (i.e. Abysswalker, you get its ending in the dream that MC has in God of Tides), but you can guess the main events that you'll see play out again.
A little exception for the LIs that are not reincarnating but still retain their memories (hence they are acting with knowledge of how things already went). For now you know that God Of Tides and Tears Of Romirro played this way, with the characters regaining their memories and acting with awareness of their past (not that it brought them anywhere). You also know that Xavier is the same Xavier from Philos, and as of now we don't have other reincarnations of him. The others I can't say until you catch up with their lore.
Last but not least: it's fair to imply that unless the game explicitly tells you that X and Y events are in chronological order (i.e. Romirro after GoT, Lucid Dream after Homecoming Wings), they're happening in a web of multiverse realities, meaning that "past" and "future" are just points of reference to us, but these realities are happening at the same time, overlapping and isolated, everything everywhere all at once. Abysswalker is set in the future since it's on Philos, but it doesn't mean it's a cemented future our characters will linearly reach. Abysswalker simply happened, it's a fly stuck in the multiverse web. Whether you get there from a thread called "past" or another called "future" is irrelevant. And that fly likely got stuck together with the Romirro fly a few threads away, and they died together.
"But how do you explain MC dreaming of these events?" Well, we don't have confirmation that MC is dreaming of her past or her future, rather than an entirely different reality. To the list of chronological events I'd add the witch of the abyss, simply because Raf knows about it. Maybe in the future it will come out that he also dreams of other realities, or knows that MC does, and that will blow the witch from the linear timeline and shoot it somewhere random in the multiverse web, but for now it's stuck somewhere in our past.
This is also why some are saying that Romirro itself is another AU and not in MC's linear past, because she gives Raf his heart back there, but in the present she still has it.
P.S. Found it! It includes at least another card from Caleb that you still haven't watched, but in case you want to avoid the spoiler, the scene from Lucid Dream is right at the beginning of the video. https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveAndDeepspac...o_illusio/
P.P.S. I swear I am capable of talking about something that is not Raf-related, here I had to use him because it's the one LI where you played all his myths lol
You're right that him mentioning the world already being mid-explosion is odd, especially considering the fact he should be an amnesiac. But technically he should also have no idea of what a chip is, and yet he clocked it immediately. So maybe he knows more than he's showing MC.
And his "the world is already ending" sentence can be explained by knowing about his present role in the main flow of events (aka he works with/for Ever but is he truly being controlled?). The new alternative abyssal chaos they just released with 4.0 adds to this if you play his mission. He always has very interesting dialogues. But his comment in Lucid Dream would only add to the idea that he hasn't actually lost his memories, wouldn't it.
What happens with all the LIs is that every reincarnation echoes the fate that has been set for them. They will mirror and repeat actions, dialogues etc. It's how you get Raf always saving MC from drowning, always falling in love with her, always ending up against the Tome, always choosing between sacrificing himself or watching MC sacrifice herself or losing Lemuria. But the reincarnations instead of being a simple replay actually let us witness a new angle to see things we wouldn't notice otherwise (big example of this is Catch-22 which, further from being just a hot valentine's banner, is a gold mine of info on things we still don't know about the present timeline and the character's personalities -- a bit like Silent Hill where you need to switch to its fucked up version of reality to access doors that wouldn't be open in the real world, even though they're perfect mirrors).
So yeah, once you've watched one myth for one LI you can already guess what's going to happen in the others. Or better yet, sometimes the ending isn't shown to you (i.e. Abysswalker, you get its ending in the dream that MC has in God of Tides), but you can guess the main events that you'll see play out again.
A little exception for the LIs that are not reincarnating but still retain their memories (hence they are acting with knowledge of how things already went). For now you know that God Of Tides and Tears Of Romirro played this way, with the characters regaining their memories and acting with awareness of their past (not that it brought them anywhere). You also know that Xavier is the same Xavier from Philos, and as of now we don't have other reincarnations of him. The others I can't say until you catch up with their lore.
Last but not least: it's fair to imply that unless the game explicitly tells you that X and Y events are in chronological order (i.e. Romirro after GoT, Lucid Dream after Homecoming Wings), they're happening in a web of multiverse realities, meaning that "past" and "future" are just points of reference to us, but these realities are happening at the same time, overlapping and isolated, everything everywhere all at once. Abysswalker is set in the future since it's on Philos, but it doesn't mean it's a cemented future our characters will linearly reach. Abysswalker simply happened, it's a fly stuck in the multiverse web. Whether you get there from a thread called "past" or another called "future" is irrelevant. And that fly likely got stuck together with the Romirro fly a few threads away, and they died together.
"But how do you explain MC dreaming of these events?" Well, we don't have confirmation that MC is dreaming of her past or her future, rather than an entirely different reality. To the list of chronological events I'd add the witch of the abyss, simply because Raf knows about it. Maybe in the future it will come out that he also dreams of other realities, or knows that MC does, and that will blow the witch from the linear timeline and shoot it somewhere random in the multiverse web, but for now it's stuck somewhere in our past.
This is also why some are saying that Romirro itself is another AU and not in MC's linear past, because she gives Raf his heart back there, but in the present she still has it.
P.S. Found it! It includes at least another card from Caleb that you still haven't watched, but in case you want to avoid the spoiler, the scene from Lucid Dream is right at the beginning of the video. https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveAndDeepspac...o_illusio/
P.P.S. I swear I am capable of talking about something that is not Raf-related, here I had to use him because it's the one LI where you played all his myths lol
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