06-27-2025, 10:25 AM
- wish i'd manage to get to Golden Sands before City of Mirrors showed up
I totally understand your point, but consider that all Raf's myths are meant to echo each other. Whoever played Abysswalker first went "OH!" when they played Romirro, and whoever played Romirro first whent "OH!" when they played Abysswalker. The only important thing was watching Forgotten Sea before both, because that was necessary as a prequel to Romirro and as a direct reference in Abysswalker. Other than that, players are meant to fall into Raf's storyline based on their luck in getting his cards, so it is kinda meant to be a path you can start walking in any direction. You'll start drawing patterns and echoes anyway.
If I have to find something that would have been better had you played all the old myths first is that the quality of the game is increasing as months go by. Romirro is technically, stylistically and visually more cohesive than the others. So if you play them out of order (in terms of publication date) you might get a bit of whiplash when it comes to the quality of the product you have in your hands.
- "His heart was stolen by humans." but he... he gave it away.
That's why I think he doesn't genuinely remember that part. He has fractured and incomplete memories just like Sea God Raf before completing his ascension. He's repeating what Lemurians and the Tome narrate of the Ceremony event, which is that his follower stole his heart (and Lemuria's flame).
You might wonder "but Romirro???" and this is where we either get into the multiverse (Romirro is another branch following Forgotten Sea, Abysswalker another one), into a retcon (writers hadn't finalized Romirro when they wrote Abysswalker, so Abysswalker only references Forgotten Sea), or into a forced in-game rationalization (he doesn't have his memories and Amund is brainwashing him into believing the Tome states she stole from him).
- "Don't... touch me,"
I'm emotional because Forgotten Sea Rafayel also didn't like being touched, but then in all timelines he becomes such a cuddly cutie <3
- "Bonds can change."
Possible misdirection so the princess shuts up. Unless he also has wrong info about it, the bond cannot change and is permanent. Unless he's referring to the part where he can kill her and take back his heart, thus dissolving the bond. But that's actually something not explicitly stated by the game: after he kills her, is she still branded as his one follower? So that in the next reincarnation she will still be the chosen one? Or maybe the follower is meant to be just one just like the sea god should be one, because the next sea god would choose their own follower. With MC and Raf things get fucked up because of the reincarnation thing.
- there's the thing you spoilered for me several pages ago
I'm never forgiving myself for that one. I was SO SURE it was established right at the very beginning.
- City of Mirrors?
I mean, you are technically correct. Whalefall City and Romirro are one and the same. The Island of Songs is close to Whalefall City. In this myth they'll keep on referencing the God of Tides myth exclusively, because that was what was out.
- "Shouldn't the God of the Sea himself change the story?"
Raf 3
- "Goodbye, my beloved bride."
I seem to recall that in a direct translation he says "Goodbye, bride of the Sea God"
because he never reclaimed godhood, so it's like he can't even claim her as his own bride.
- "Your Highness' most important person."
Raf was both her first and second most important person <3
- "Refusing to take her heart, Your Quintessence's life must burn away. Your..."
let me just skip ahead and also quote
"deep in the palace, the little blue fish slowly turns to a silver scale and sinks to the bottom of the glass bowl."
And reference back to Romirro where Raf's tail turned white when he was dying. This ominous signs kinda point toward the fact that if Raf doesn't really take her heart back, he's going to die pretty soon.
- "Didn't your Quintessence say the bond was destroyed?"
That's actually an interesting bit. He technically changed the prophecy in the Tome, and he technically erased her bond. But her bond just reformed like nothing was amiss, so what does that say about the prophecy? Can they actually escape fate?
- I am not the one who easily forgets.
Facepalm moment
- "Didn't you want to visit the sea? We'll head to Whalefall City."
In Forgotten Sea, the dream MC has of the Abysswalker timeline takes place once they arrive in Whalefall City. And well... it ends with Raf taking her heart.
It is unclear whether that was a vision that will still happen, or if now that Raf has changed the Tome he has avoided that ending.
- the two cities next to each other
SUSPICIOUS. But very coherent. Close to Linkon are the ruins of Lemuria, and here they're close to the city where the princess lives.
I totally understand your point, but consider that all Raf's myths are meant to echo each other. Whoever played Abysswalker first went "OH!" when they played Romirro, and whoever played Romirro first whent "OH!" when they played Abysswalker. The only important thing was watching Forgotten Sea before both, because that was necessary as a prequel to Romirro and as a direct reference in Abysswalker. Other than that, players are meant to fall into Raf's storyline based on their luck in getting his cards, so it is kinda meant to be a path you can start walking in any direction. You'll start drawing patterns and echoes anyway.
If I have to find something that would have been better had you played all the old myths first is that the quality of the game is increasing as months go by. Romirro is technically, stylistically and visually more cohesive than the others. So if you play them out of order (in terms of publication date) you might get a bit of whiplash when it comes to the quality of the product you have in your hands.
- "His heart was stolen by humans." but he... he gave it away.
That's why I think he doesn't genuinely remember that part. He has fractured and incomplete memories just like Sea God Raf before completing his ascension. He's repeating what Lemurians and the Tome narrate of the Ceremony event, which is that his follower stole his heart (and Lemuria's flame).
You might wonder "but Romirro???" and this is where we either get into the multiverse (Romirro is another branch following Forgotten Sea, Abysswalker another one), into a retcon (writers hadn't finalized Romirro when they wrote Abysswalker, so Abysswalker only references Forgotten Sea), or into a forced in-game rationalization (he doesn't have his memories and Amund is brainwashing him into believing the Tome states she stole from him).
- "Don't... touch me,"
I'm emotional because Forgotten Sea Rafayel also didn't like being touched, but then in all timelines he becomes such a cuddly cutie <3
- "Bonds can change."
Possible misdirection so the princess shuts up. Unless he also has wrong info about it, the bond cannot change and is permanent. Unless he's referring to the part where he can kill her and take back his heart, thus dissolving the bond. But that's actually something not explicitly stated by the game: after he kills her, is she still branded as his one follower? So that in the next reincarnation she will still be the chosen one? Or maybe the follower is meant to be just one just like the sea god should be one, because the next sea god would choose their own follower. With MC and Raf things get fucked up because of the reincarnation thing.
- there's the thing you spoilered for me several pages ago
I'm never forgiving myself for that one. I was SO SURE it was established right at the very beginning.
- City of Mirrors?
I mean, you are technically correct. Whalefall City and Romirro are one and the same. The Island of Songs is close to Whalefall City. In this myth they'll keep on referencing the God of Tides myth exclusively, because that was what was out.
- "Shouldn't the God of the Sea himself change the story?"
Raf 3
- "Goodbye, my beloved bride."
I seem to recall that in a direct translation he says "Goodbye, bride of the Sea God"
because he never reclaimed godhood, so it's like he can't even claim her as his own bride.
- "Your Highness' most important person."
Raf was both her first and second most important person <3
- "Refusing to take her heart, Your Quintessence's life must burn away. Your..."
let me just skip ahead and also quote
"deep in the palace, the little blue fish slowly turns to a silver scale and sinks to the bottom of the glass bowl."
And reference back to Romirro where Raf's tail turned white when he was dying. This ominous signs kinda point toward the fact that if Raf doesn't really take her heart back, he's going to die pretty soon.
- "Didn't your Quintessence say the bond was destroyed?"
That's actually an interesting bit. He technically changed the prophecy in the Tome, and he technically erased her bond. But her bond just reformed like nothing was amiss, so what does that say about the prophecy? Can they actually escape fate?
- I am not the one who easily forgets.
Facepalm moment
- "Didn't you want to visit the sea? We'll head to Whalefall City."
In Forgotten Sea, the dream MC has of the Abysswalker timeline takes place once they arrive in Whalefall City. And well... it ends with Raf taking her heart.
It is unclear whether that was a vision that will still happen, or if now that Raf has changed the Tome he has avoided that ending.
- the two cities next to each other
SUSPICIOUS. But very coherent. Close to Linkon are the ruins of Lemuria, and here they're close to the city where the princess lives.
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