06-23-2025, 02:29 PM
- was the gift not the fish, but RAFAYEL?
They went all out with the slavery trope in Abysswalker
Which is an interesting 180 from Forgotten Sea where sirens were free to eat a human or two if they wanted
- Philos has to be Earth
That's what I believe as well. It would mean that at a certain point the Earth's core will die, and it will be revived artificially, thus birthing Philos.
That we see it through the Deepspace Tunnel can be explained by the fact that the tunnel lets us look through time, which is also tied to space since everything in the universe spins and moves. So we might have seen the Earth but in a dead state.
The alternative is, of course, that Philos is an alternate universe Earth, and the fact that we have the Lemurians along with myths and legends about them is explained by the fact that it's a parallel timeline.
- are we sure Philos is in the future, not the past?
That Philos is in the future is deduced by fans from the fact that Xavier comes from Philos, they count years starting from the birth of Philos (Xav is 200 something years from the birth of Philos), and Xav explicitly travels /back/ in time to reach us on Earth.
Now, whether Abysswalker's Philos is also in the future is a little less obvious. If you try to put it in a linear timeline, Raf will tell how long it's been since the seas have dried up, and that will go in direct conflict with Xav's chronological timeline. So Raf must be AFTER Xav. Or he could be from a very distant past of the planet, before it died (the dead planet we see in the tunnel) and then got revived as Earth 2.0. Or it could be an alternative timeline entirely.
As of now all the textual reference to Philos is always in the context of after-Earth.
By playing this myth you'll see a few other references that will help you put things in order. But the exact placement of Abysswalker in the timeline is a fan theory.
- and therefore should also remember City of Mirrors
Unless Romirro is a branch ending, while Main Story and Philos' Abysswalker are another.
Also, Sea God Raf lost basically 99% of his memories because of how much time passed. He felt the bond with MC but didn't remember /who/ she was, longed for Lemuria but he seems to not know what happened to it (since its fall is directly related to the ceremony, MC, and what happens after it, all things he doesn't remember), but he still immediately recognized the authority of the Tome. Only after interacting with the Tome and going the trial in the tomb did he remember who MC was, and it was only after Hawkern's potion that he fully remembered who sealed him away (which proves that he can recover certain past memories and not more recent ones).
Abysswalker might be in the same position. He has all the memories from his current life, knows he has a bond and a bride, longs for Lemuria, recognizes the authority of the Tome, has an elder Lemurian guiding him, but he could be missing vital info about everything else.
- MC's heart
you said, and I quote, "that would certainly require a very special person to be able to withstand it."
Maybe her mortal body is a little too much for the heart it contains, so it's destined to slowly consume her. Even present MC isn't all fine, since she suffers from Protocore syndrome.
They went all out with the slavery trope in Abysswalker
Which is an interesting 180 from Forgotten Sea where sirens were free to eat a human or two if they wanted
- Philos has to be Earth
That's what I believe as well. It would mean that at a certain point the Earth's core will die, and it will be revived artificially, thus birthing Philos.
That we see it through the Deepspace Tunnel can be explained by the fact that the tunnel lets us look through time, which is also tied to space since everything in the universe spins and moves. So we might have seen the Earth but in a dead state.
The alternative is, of course, that Philos is an alternate universe Earth, and the fact that we have the Lemurians along with myths and legends about them is explained by the fact that it's a parallel timeline.
- are we sure Philos is in the future, not the past?
That Philos is in the future is deduced by fans from the fact that Xavier comes from Philos, they count years starting from the birth of Philos (Xav is 200 something years from the birth of Philos), and Xav explicitly travels /back/ in time to reach us on Earth.
Now, whether Abysswalker's Philos is also in the future is a little less obvious. If you try to put it in a linear timeline, Raf will tell how long it's been since the seas have dried up, and that will go in direct conflict with Xav's chronological timeline. So Raf must be AFTER Xav. Or he could be from a very distant past of the planet, before it died (the dead planet we see in the tunnel) and then got revived as Earth 2.0. Or it could be an alternative timeline entirely.
As of now all the textual reference to Philos is always in the context of after-Earth.
By playing this myth you'll see a few other references that will help you put things in order. But the exact placement of Abysswalker in the timeline is a fan theory.
- and therefore should also remember City of Mirrors
Unless Romirro is a branch ending, while Main Story and Philos' Abysswalker are another.
Also, Sea God Raf lost basically 99% of his memories because of how much time passed. He felt the bond with MC but didn't remember /who/ she was, longed for Lemuria but he seems to not know what happened to it (since its fall is directly related to the ceremony, MC, and what happens after it, all things he doesn't remember), but he still immediately recognized the authority of the Tome. Only after interacting with the Tome and going the trial in the tomb did he remember who MC was, and it was only after Hawkern's potion that he fully remembered who sealed him away (which proves that he can recover certain past memories and not more recent ones).
Abysswalker might be in the same position. He has all the memories from his current life, knows he has a bond and a bride, longs for Lemuria, recognizes the authority of the Tome, has an elder Lemurian guiding him, but he could be missing vital info about everything else.
- MC's heart
you said, and I quote, "that would certainly require a very special person to be able to withstand it."
Maybe her mortal body is a little too much for the heart it contains, so it's destined to slowly consume her. Even present MC isn't all fine, since she suffers from Protocore syndrome.
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Time goes by but memories rewind
