06-17-2025, 07:11 PM
Yes omg do not read anything until you've played it.
But prepare tissues if you're someone who can get emotional.
Anyway. I've cleared my mind, worked a bit, I can come back and properly comment this monster of a myth.
Spoilers ahead from this point on.
- It was so good. It's been hours, and I'm still feeling in the same mood as I was when I was playing it. It stayed with me the entire time. The writing, the design, the animation, the tone, the music. Everything was on point. If not for those damn NPC voice actors /sighs
- The way the entire sea surges when MC stabs herself, like the ocean gasped together with Raf
- "I'm pretty sure this isn't Lemuria on the surface (before it sank into the ocean), it's Romirro."
I am so stupid sometimes. Romirro IS Whalefall City.
Which is why its architecture is so familiar to what we've seen in God Of Tides. And why it's called "the city of mirrors" because the idea is that it's a mirror image of the underwater Whalefall City. And why they WALK to the Island of Songs. And why they have the Tome. And why it has to sink for Lemuria to be reborn, and why it sinks when MC gives her heart back to Raf, thus making him recover his full powers. And Lemurian blood and memories awaken the people who lived in Romirro, who were Lemurians all along actually.
After all, Lemuria is narrated as the birth of the human civilization, and in this timeline they are the last ark, the last "humans" alive.
Also, great use of reverse red herring by infold because I'm so used to backgrounds being recycled between completely different locations that I didn't really stop to question why they were using Whalefall City from God of Tides as background for the streets of Romirro.
- Sea god's identity. I remember reading people fighting on twitter because some said that Raf was a vessel for the Sea God, rather than actually /being/ him, and other Raf fans took that very personally. With this myth it seems like we do go slightly in that direction though. Not because there were other Sea God's before Raf, but because in the post-GoT flashback scene we get, Raf literally gets possessed and has to fight it off so that MC can escape. Which ties back to Raf's main branch in the main story where he again gets possessed and is only stopped by MC commanding him to snap out of it. The Sea God is a force of nature, a divine instinct that works beyond rationality and that considers the bond a weakness, and MC someone he needs to kill in order to gain full power. The fact that MC still has his heart is seen as her having stolen it because she still hasn't returned it.
- Raf's memories. That really was a big answer to big questions we all had. Does Raf remember everything from his timeline or not? Seems like he remembers once he obtains his full powers, but until then he might not remember at all or have only distant memories because it's been way too long.
Speaking of too long, the text first talks about tens of thousands of years, and then straight up switches up to millions of years. I'd be more inclined to work with the first than the second, but who knows.
- When does this all happen?
In general, it seems like we have God of Tides - Submerged Eclipse - Witch of the Abyss - Main Story - Abysswalker
This timeline is problematic, though, because there's no guarantee that any of these myths aren't happening on an alternative timeline. We could have two possible outcomes of God of Tides, one that ends with Submerged Eclipse, another that ends with the main story + Abysswalker.
I say that they might be two different branches because at the end of SE we have Lemuria once again completely revived. How do we end up with Lemuria once again in ruins in the main plot line? If we incorporate what we were talking about in the Fragrant Dream thread, it might be that once Raf sacrifices his life to make MC human he once again dooms Lemuria, and then we get our regular main story.
Another reason for that is to avoid retcons, especially with Abysswalker, which references GoT and should have referenced SE as well (but of course it couldn't because SE hadn't been written/finalized yet by the writers). So we could be talking of two GoT which generated two different outcomes.
But I like the idea of the timeline being connected too much.
- I was talking about Raf as a Sea God getting possessed by the instinct to regain his powers in full and therefore kill MC. Well, SE Raf IS full-on Sea God, and he falls in love, and he was going to sacrifice himself if MC hadn't managed to anticipate him. I don't know, I just love this fact.
The differences between the Rafs are also so interesting. GoT pre-ceremony Raf was fiery and rebellious, outwardly cold but full of life and passion. GoT post-ceremony was just depressed man lol. Then we reach SE Raf who is the closest we've seen to his final form (we never get to see it because we die right as he regains that last bit of power), and he's much more calm, mature, but also subdued. Like he's seen too much to still entertain innocence in his heart. Witch of the Abyss Raf (who should have referenced SE and instead only referenced GoT - which is either a slight retcon by the writers, or proves that it happens in a second parallel sequel to GoT) is the most immediately romantic: MC doesn't even know him and yet he was already on a whole quest to die just so he could make her human. That was his entire purpose. And then we get to present Raf, who's so mistrusting of humans and has been forced to live among them almost all his life, desperately trying to save the last remaining members of his species, but gets back some of that fieriness that seemed to have dimmed after the ceremony in GoT. And the longer he's with MC, the more his personality seems to let go of some of that weight that he'd been carrying for so long.
I love them all.
- There's one last point about why Raf is the last Sea God which requires you to read the rest of the canon story first (anecdotes + world underneath), but it's possible we got an answer to that, too.
- Please also listen to the Secret Time you get with the 4star card Tidefall Allure (you get it with the mini event IIRC). Very important.
But prepare tissues if you're someone who can get emotional.
Anyway. I've cleared my mind, worked a bit, I can come back and properly comment this monster of a myth.
Spoilers ahead from this point on.
- It was so good. It's been hours, and I'm still feeling in the same mood as I was when I was playing it. It stayed with me the entire time. The writing, the design, the animation, the tone, the music. Everything was on point. If not for those damn NPC voice actors /sighs
- The way the entire sea surges when MC stabs herself, like the ocean gasped together with Raf
- "I'm pretty sure this isn't Lemuria on the surface (before it sank into the ocean), it's Romirro."
I am so stupid sometimes. Romirro IS Whalefall City.
Which is why its architecture is so familiar to what we've seen in God Of Tides. And why it's called "the city of mirrors" because the idea is that it's a mirror image of the underwater Whalefall City. And why they WALK to the Island of Songs. And why they have the Tome. And why it has to sink for Lemuria to be reborn, and why it sinks when MC gives her heart back to Raf, thus making him recover his full powers. And Lemurian blood and memories awaken the people who lived in Romirro, who were Lemurians all along actually.
After all, Lemuria is narrated as the birth of the human civilization, and in this timeline they are the last ark, the last "humans" alive.
Also, great use of reverse red herring by infold because I'm so used to backgrounds being recycled between completely different locations that I didn't really stop to question why they were using Whalefall City from God of Tides as background for the streets of Romirro.
- Sea god's identity. I remember reading people fighting on twitter because some said that Raf was a vessel for the Sea God, rather than actually /being/ him, and other Raf fans took that very personally. With this myth it seems like we do go slightly in that direction though. Not because there were other Sea God's before Raf, but because in the post-GoT flashback scene we get, Raf literally gets possessed and has to fight it off so that MC can escape. Which ties back to Raf's main branch in the main story where he again gets possessed and is only stopped by MC commanding him to snap out of it. The Sea God is a force of nature, a divine instinct that works beyond rationality and that considers the bond a weakness, and MC someone he needs to kill in order to gain full power. The fact that MC still has his heart is seen as her having stolen it because she still hasn't returned it.
- Raf's memories. That really was a big answer to big questions we all had. Does Raf remember everything from his timeline or not? Seems like he remembers once he obtains his full powers, but until then he might not remember at all or have only distant memories because it's been way too long.
Speaking of too long, the text first talks about tens of thousands of years, and then straight up switches up to millions of years. I'd be more inclined to work with the first than the second, but who knows.
- When does this all happen?
In general, it seems like we have God of Tides - Submerged Eclipse - Witch of the Abyss - Main Story - Abysswalker
This timeline is problematic, though, because there's no guarantee that any of these myths aren't happening on an alternative timeline. We could have two possible outcomes of God of Tides, one that ends with Submerged Eclipse, another that ends with the main story + Abysswalker.
I say that they might be two different branches because at the end of SE we have Lemuria once again completely revived. How do we end up with Lemuria once again in ruins in the main plot line? If we incorporate what we were talking about in the Fragrant Dream thread, it might be that once Raf sacrifices his life to make MC human he once again dooms Lemuria, and then we get our regular main story.
Another reason for that is to avoid retcons, especially with Abysswalker, which references GoT and should have referenced SE as well (but of course it couldn't because SE hadn't been written/finalized yet by the writers). So we could be talking of two GoT which generated two different outcomes.
But I like the idea of the timeline being connected too much.
- I was talking about Raf as a Sea God getting possessed by the instinct to regain his powers in full and therefore kill MC. Well, SE Raf IS full-on Sea God, and he falls in love, and he was going to sacrifice himself if MC hadn't managed to anticipate him. I don't know, I just love this fact.
The differences between the Rafs are also so interesting. GoT pre-ceremony Raf was fiery and rebellious, outwardly cold but full of life and passion. GoT post-ceremony was just depressed man lol. Then we reach SE Raf who is the closest we've seen to his final form (we never get to see it because we die right as he regains that last bit of power), and he's much more calm, mature, but also subdued. Like he's seen too much to still entertain innocence in his heart. Witch of the Abyss Raf (who should have referenced SE and instead only referenced GoT - which is either a slight retcon by the writers, or proves that it happens in a second parallel sequel to GoT) is the most immediately romantic: MC doesn't even know him and yet he was already on a whole quest to die just so he could make her human. That was his entire purpose. And then we get to present Raf, who's so mistrusting of humans and has been forced to live among them almost all his life, desperately trying to save the last remaining members of his species, but gets back some of that fieriness that seemed to have dimmed after the ceremony in GoT. And the longer he's with MC, the more his personality seems to let go of some of that weight that he'd been carrying for so long.
I love them all.
- There's one last point about why Raf is the last Sea God which requires you to read the rest of the canon story first (anecdotes + world underneath), but it's possible we got an answer to that, too.
- Please also listen to the Secret Time you get with the 4star card Tidefall Allure (you get it with the mini event IIRC). Very important.
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Time goes by but memories rewind